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Offline philhyde

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Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« on: September 20, 2007, 07:47:39 PM »

Hello,

I have a Whirlpool washing machine that fills and agitates but will not spin.  The selector switch also sometimes makes a buzzing sound.

Any ideas?  :)

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Phil

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #1 on: September 20, 2007, 07:57:13 PM »
Is the washer draining?  Or is it going dead for drain and spin???

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #2 on: September 20, 2007, 07:57:53 PM »
Yes it drains fine.  :)

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #3 on: September 20, 2007, 07:58:52 PM »
Actually I will clarify.  I'm not 100% sure what it does if left to go through a complete cycle.  If I stop it and switch it over to spin it will drain.

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2007, 08:06:03 PM »
Ok need to sort of stand there and see what happens when it stops agitating without you touching the washer, tell us of the pauses in the timer and what happens after each pause when it stops agitatimg...or if it just goes dead and sits there till you open and close the lid...

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2007, 08:51:32 PM »
Thanks.  Will report back.  ;)

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2007, 09:24:19 PM »
It went through a complete cycle all the way to completion.  It did not spin but did agitate.

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2007, 07:54:20 PM »
During the spin cycle open the lid all the way and close it again. Does the washer start to spin then?

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #8 on: September 21, 2007, 08:14:29 PM »
No.

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #9 on: September 21, 2007, 10:45:23 PM »
No.

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see what happens when it stops agitating without you touching the washer, tell us of the pauses in the timer and what happens after each pause when it stops agitatimg...or if it just goes dead and sits there till you open and close the lid...

Pegi asked about the pause, did you notice any?

The timer should pause the washer once the washer is done pumping the water out and before it starts the spin cycle.

If there is no pause (the motor stops running) then the tranny can not shift into spin at the end of the drain cycle.

You can create this pause by lifting the lid during the spin cycle too.
If the timer pauses and the washer does not go into spin when the motor starts running again then the tranny will need to be replaced.

How old is the washer?

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2007, 05:59:36 AM »
I will need to check again for the pause.  On the full cycle, I just let it run on it's own and did not watch it.

To create the pause by lifting the lid, how would I know that the timer has paused?  The motor/noise does shut off when the lid is lifted.

The washer is about 4 years old.

Thanks! :)

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2007, 02:33:24 PM »
Any additional feedback on this?  I have been out of town since last week, and will get a chance to run another "test" tonight.  ;)

If the transmission is the culprit, can I replace it myself?

If not the transmission, what else?

Many thanks in advance.  O0

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2007, 05:24:40 PM »
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If the transmission is the culprit, can I replace it myself?

This is one of the easiest washers to replace a tranny in.

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I have been out of town since last week, and will get a chance to run another "test" tonight.

Let us know what you find.

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If not the transmission, what else?

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2007, 09:00:00 PM »
OK here is what I observed.  Started cycle, machine filled.  Agitated for a while, paused, then began to drain.  No spin.

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2007, 07:19:51 AM »
philhyde,

After the water all drains out there should be another pause were the motor stop running. Then the motor should kick in again and the washer should spin.

If you do not have the pause after the water is all pumped out then I would replace the timer.

If the washer does not pause on it's own after the water is pumped out you should be able to lift the washer lid making it pause and when you close it the washer should go into spin. This will tell you that the tranny is ok, if it spins.

If you do have the correct pause after the water is pumped out and the washer just does not go into spin after it starts again after the pause then you will need to replace the tranny.

What is the model number of your washer?
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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2007, 08:26:44 AM »
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After the water all drains out there should be another pause were the motor stop running. Then the motor should kick in again and the washer should spin.

Yes, I did observe this.  But no spin.

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What is the model number of your washer?

LSQ9520LQ0

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2007, 09:47:23 AM »
Sounds like the timer is doing it's job with the correct pauses.

Looks like it's time to replace the tranny.

Here is the one you would need for your washer.


Please keep us updated as to what you decide to do.
If you need help replacing the tranny we could help you with any problems you may run into.

It's not to hard of a job. Takes me about 20 minutes to put one in. That's if I have enough room to work and everything comes apart ok.

Being yours is not all that old I would think it would come apart easy enough.




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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2007, 10:09:41 AM »
Not a cheap part.  But I guess, cheaper to put in myself!

Is the part going to have installation instructions?  I'm pretty handy, and would guess that upon unbolting it would be obvious.  Is this correct?

Thanks!  :)

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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2007, 10:46:38 AM »
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Is the part going to have installation instructions?]

No instruction with it. I think the hardest part for anyone that has never done one before will be moving the clutch over from the top of the old tranny to the new one. Then you will have to make sure the clutch goes into the brake correctly when you slide the tranny back up into the washer.

Other then that all you have to do is remove the agitator. The agitator is the only thing you have to remove from the top of the washer.

Then remove the cabinet, lay the washer on it's back. I often lay the washer on the tranny box so what little water is in the washer does not run all over the place.

Even if all the water is pumped out there is some in the pump and if you lay it on flate on it's back water will run out the top of the tub and onto the floor.

Remove the pump from the motor, you can leave the hoses on the pump. Then remove the motor. Then the tranny will have three bolts that hold it in.

Remove the three tranny bolts and slide it out.

I have heard other say you don't have to grease the new tranny shaft, but I alway's put just a little bit of grease on it. I use some high temp bearing grease.

Just very little grease and don't get it on the clutch.

If you need more help once you get it and can try and post some more details with photo. Maybe even get a video posted if I do a tranny job between now and then. :)
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Re: Whirlpool direct drive agitates but no spin
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2007, 12:32:52 PM »
Thank you for all of the assistance.