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Title: 6th sense AWM 8143 6kg Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 07, 2008, 09:02:47 AM
Given to us by a friend, rarely used and a new model but no warranty.
I've looked on the web for this error and done everything it says to do but still the error comes up.
When I press start, water starts coming in but after 10 seconds it shuts off and the lights start flashing and the display says F09 (which incidently is NOT listed under errors in the handbook).
Initial problem happened when my husband accidently put soap flakes in the dispenser drawer and water starting gushing out of the drawer as it had clogged and the water couldn't flow in to the drum. I removed all the soap build up (must have accumulated over a bit of time from other soaps as well), poured some hot water in to remove any unreachable soap and started the machine again. This is when the error started.
Hate to have to call a repair person as I'm sure it something so simple.

My filter is behind a round flap at the bottom right of the machine. I have opened this, let the water drain and checked for any debris - none. Reached in (unplugged of course) and felt around and nothing was there. Replaced filter and put 500ml water in the soap dispenser (as per manual instructions for checking the filter).

Behind the kick panel (prises off, no screws) is the residual water hose that sticks out and has a cap on the end.
Should I be checking this?

How do I check for drain pump failure, inlet valve shut off and the pressure switch? These are things other websites have suggested for the F09 error but they don't explain what it means or how to do it.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on April 07, 2008, 09:59:34 AM
"Here's one for you."
 
Australia AWM 8143 Service Manual e-mailed
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: JWWebster on April 07, 2008, 03:53:45 PM
Thanks reggie, I told neeky somebody would come through!!
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: AJ on April 07, 2008, 04:24:56 PM
Neeky,

You from Australia?

Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 07, 2008, 05:05:14 PM
Yay! Thanks guys.  :)
I haven't had a chance to look through but will do asap before my clothes start walking out of the laundry in protest.

Yes I'm Aussie ......why? Will the manual be in bigger font with all the big words explained for me? ha ha ha
Title: Manual differences
Post by: Repair-man on April 07, 2008, 05:13:09 PM
The Aussie version: No words, just pictures :)
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: JWWebster on April 07, 2008, 05:18:38 PM
No worrys mate
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: AJ on April 07, 2008, 05:33:11 PM
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Yes I'm Aussie ......why? Will the manual be in bigger font with all the big words explained for me? ha ha ha

 :2funny:

Good one, but no I was just wondering.

Think it's cool how the internet can bring people together from around the world. :)

Always thought it would be great to visit with other appliance technicians from around the world and swap stories.

Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 07, 2008, 05:43:12 PM
Things aren't much different  in Australia. Except of course our spin cycles run the opposite way.




 :2funny:


We probably use our dryers less because of the sun though. Well *we* should..... :embarassed:


You could come over and organise washing machine races. You know, with the old ones that walk around the laundry. Get some really long extenstion leads, mark a finish line and GO!

Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: AJ on April 07, 2008, 05:47:01 PM
Your too funny.  :2funny:

Check out your profile page and try to pick your country flag.

Profile>Modify Profile>Forum Profile Information:
Please select  your country:

I just set this option up so please give it a try and let me know if it works.

All new members will be asked to do this at registration time when they sign up for a account from now on.

Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 07, 2008, 07:41:55 PM
Works lovely thanks.
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: AJ on April 07, 2008, 07:48:45 PM
Works lovely thanks.

Cool, cute photo too. :)

Thanks for giving it a try.
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: RegUS_PatOff on April 07, 2008, 08:18:53 PM
AWM 8143.pdf (http://www.eserviceinfo.com/download.php?fileid=20718)

if download box doesn't appear, close link box, then click link again
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 07, 2008, 09:05:27 PM
Thanks guys. I got the manual and looked through it.

Had a go at the diagnostics in case it was something else.
It wouldn't go past step 5. It's meant to automatically advance, but it didn't. I tried reducing the temp to 20 as it states but it still just kept filling and draining with the drum rhythm going 10secs on 6 off.

Tried to run a wash again and it started filling and drum was turning but after 5 secs the error came up again and all the water drained out.

So doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the draining. I've got the hose just sitting in the sink so I could see water came out ok.

Does this mean the pressure switch has got wet? Would make sense as the original problem was water pouring out the soap dispenser.
Where is the pressure switch?
Is this something I can do myself or should I call an expert like yourselves?

Such a pain!

Thanks again guys.
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: JWWebster on April 07, 2008, 09:21:11 PM
you have the hose sitting in the sink?
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 07, 2008, 09:34:59 PM
I have it leading into the sink. There is a hole next to the sink where it normally goes in and flows out but I pulled it out (not locked in, just sits in there) and put the end in the laundry sink so I could see the water flowing more easily to check it wasn't blocked.]

Why???????
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 07, 2008, 10:37:42 PM
Fixed!! Maybe.....?

I noticed when I tipped the machine a bit that water was coming out of the base. I read something about an overflow switch being triggered if it has overflowed.
So I lay the machine against the wall face down and let it drain out for 10 minutes.

Voila! Wash cycle on as I speak. I also read somewhere about adding a cup of milk to an empty cycle to help disperse the soap build up (original problem) so that's the wash I've got on now.

Fingers crossed it goes all the way through!

Thanks heaps for your support guys. You gave me the confidence to try it for myself. If I ever have any other problems with it or my other appliances, this is my first port of call!

Donation for the site or beers? Your choice.
Title: milk in the washer
Post by: Repair-man on April 08, 2008, 05:43:23 AM
Glad you got the machine going, but I'd sure like to know where you read all this stuff about adding milk to the washer in order to dispel soap buildup. Was this in the manual as well?
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 08, 2008, 07:57:30 AM
Actually that advice came from a repair guy in Melbourne (1000km from me in Sydney) who answered my plea on Yahoo! Answers.
He suggested the tipping thing and adding the milk.
He said a cup of milk would help lift any soap stuck inside so it could be drained out.

What's your thoughts on the milk!? I imagine everyone has their own quirky things they do that they have gathered from experience.

He has been servicing machines for 20+ years in the Jail system! Interesting work. Bet he finds all sorts clogging those machines.

Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: JWWebster on April 08, 2008, 08:18:51 AM
You have helped me out a bunch and given me some ideas to mull over. Glad you got it going.
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 08, 2008, 08:36:25 AM
So JW, should I donate beers or to the site?
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: JWWebster on April 08, 2008, 08:58:19 AM
That is entirely up to you. Do what you think is best
Title: milk, etc.
Post by: Repair-man on April 08, 2008, 01:28:56 PM
If you could see what is actually down in there, I doubt you would want to make a milkshake out of the thing. Detergent and residuals will not be affected by a relatively weak form of lactic acid, but you might get a pint of some brownish colored butter out the drain hose :)

I guess someone in prison with no access to real chemicals would have to make do. In the free world, we use products like Affresh and Washer Magic to break down the buildups, depending on what they are. (JW doesn't need any more beer money this month...he's made his quota.)
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: JWWebster on April 08, 2008, 04:47:23 PM
Glad to see you got is going :banana: :cheers: :banana:
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 08, 2008, 05:00:21 PM
Nooooooooo he wasn't IN prison! He had contracts with the jails to fix their machines when they went on the blink. ha ha ha
 :2funny:

Well it doesn't seem to have done any damage!

I was lucky fixing this because our machine is so new there was no gunk ANYWHERE. All water was clear or white and there was no mould or build up in the drawer or filter. The thing has probably done less than 50 loads in it's life.

By the time I finish with it this week catching up on all my washing, it will have another 50 racked up!

I'll donate to the site then.

My brother is trying to fix an old washing machine that keeps getting caught up with gunk in the filter after every wash so the clothes have black flakes all over them.

He needs to take the centre spindle out of a Hitachi top loader to have a good look at things. Any ideas on how to take the spindle out and what it could be?

Should I post this as a new topic?
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Al Capone on April 08, 2008, 05:13:56 PM
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Should I post this as a new topic?

Yes, with a model number too.

Thanks,
Title: Is there a Hitachi forum here?
Post by: Repair-man on April 08, 2008, 05:17:22 PM
Neeky, you are presenting a challenge that so far might go un-answered. We're a North American bunch with familiarity on specific brands.  You can always try having your brother or whoever is working on the machine to post a new separate topic in hopes that a technician with European and Asian product knowledge might respond....  Kind of like asking a Chevrolet mechanic about a Porsche.
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: AJ on April 08, 2008, 05:22:31 PM
Neeky, you are presenting a challenge that so far might go un-answered. We're a North American bunch with familiarity on specific products.  You can always try having your brother or whoever is working on the machine to post a new separate topic in hopes that a technician with European and Asian product knowledge might respond.Kind of like asking a Chevrolet mechanic about a Porsche.

Yes it might go un-answered, but please do start a new topic and ask.

This is the internet and you never know who might come along to help. :)

Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 08, 2008, 05:31:21 PM
 :D

Yeah I know. He's gonna take a pic of it and see if anyone knows. He's sure it's just a catch or something easy to release it but it has him dumbfounded. That's what you get for 6 years at university doing mechnical engineering.

Chevy and Porsche aren't that much different. One's just back-to-front!
Porsche break down a LOT LESS than your chevys.
And a Porsche has never had Chuck Norris's butt parked in it.

I'm a porsche fan  ;D
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: AJ on April 08, 2008, 05:37:01 PM
Photos would be great Neeky,

He can post it here in this board. (http://appliancejunk.com/forums/index.php?board=16.0)

I would love to get other appliance repair technicians from around the world on our team here at ApplianceJunk.com

There's more to the world then the USA. :)

Title: Speaking of USA
Post by: Repair-man on April 08, 2008, 05:40:16 PM
I'll see the USA in my Chevrolet, thank you. What have you got against Chuck, anyway ;)


I'm still sulking that AJ doesn't provide a Texas flag instead of that generic thing.
Title: Re: Error F09 - here's a challenge for you!
Post by: Neeky on April 08, 2008, 10:15:35 PM
Chuck is just so........Chuck! Although I do love the Chuck-isms.
When it rains, Chuck Norris doesn't get wet, the rain gets Chucked.
ha ha ha.
Chuck Norris has counted to infinity. Twice.


I'm not too familar with American cars actually. Australia tends to go more for Japanese pocket Rockets or Euro performance cars.
The only US cars I've really liked are the Viper and the new GT.

Otherwise I'm Euro all the way! My fave of all time is the Bugatti EB110. Current dream car is the McLaren F1 road car.