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Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« on: December 27, 2011, 09:41:26 PM »
I'm the guy with the "spanner nut" thread. Thought I'd start a new one and make the subject match the actual situation  :rofl:

Got everything back together (I think) except for a situation with the motor wiring.

In the videos it is shown that removal of the motor involves removing the motor harness plug and the wires connected to the capacitor. However, in my situation I also have 2 white wires that come out of the harness next to the wires that go to the capacitor. These wires were wire-nutted to 2 white wires that come out of the motor winding. I would just put them back together except that they are all white and I do not know which wire goes to which.

Is this the way these wires are supposed to be connected to the motor or was this a jery-rig job? I am enclosing some photos to illustrate. If you can make sense of this I will appreciate it.

I wonder if the wires originally went to the plug and the one coming out of the windings originally went to the terminal block on the motor.



Model KAWE850VAL1

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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2011, 09:58:56 PM »
Here is the wiring diagram if it helps. Not sure off hand. Can you follow the wires up that harness to see what they connect to on the other end?



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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2011, 10:16:42 PM »
I'll go do that now  O0

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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2011, 10:57:22 PM »
Ok, here we go. The wires coming out of the motor windings are 1) white and 2) white w/black stripe.

The wires in the harness that connect to them are just white. They go to 2 pins on the timer plug.

Heres a drawing to illustrate.

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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2011, 11:04:41 PM »
Are you using the correct motor for this machine? Something aint right. The harnesss on that machine is for a specially wire motor with multiple speeds; using any old direct drive motor will not work. You gonna end up frying contacts in the timer.
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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2011, 11:06:41 PM »
This is the motor that has alway been in it. I have used it a lot. Ran good till the tranny went out.

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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2011, 11:08:54 PM »
How did you end up messing up the wiring? The motor I am thinking about had quick connects on it for them 2 extra white wires.
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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2011, 11:13:50 PM »
You can't leave them two wires un connected and you can't jump em either. But since you do have the right motor then why not make the loop? Polarity ain't an issue. If it runs ass back wards you can always reverse the wires right?
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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2011, 11:18:44 PM »
The washer came with the house. Always been like that. Ran fine before. The 2 wires coming from the harness were wire-nutted to the 2 wires from the motor. I just don't know which wire went to which wire. If polarity is not an issue then I will take it for a spin tomorrow.

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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2011, 11:40:06 PM »
Let s know how it does.
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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2011, 07:39:38 PM »
DRAT!! I don't know how much longer I can stay focused on this.
I got it all together, even put connectors on those wires from the harness and the motor. Plugged it in and it spins on the spin cycle but that is all. I find no movement in the wash cycle.
O wait!! It just occurred to me, it would not agitate if there is no water in the tub, would it?

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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2011, 07:41:16 PM »
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O wait!! It just occurred to me, it would not agitate if there is no water in the tub, would it?


That's correct, put some water in there and lets us know how good it works.  O0
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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2011, 07:45:30 PM »
One other thing before I go...When it spins there is a "squeek squeek squeek...etc". I think I saw in a video that this is from an improperly seated seal?

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Re: Need advice on Kitchenaid KAWE850VAL1 motor wiring
« Reply #14 on: December 28, 2011, 08:55:02 PM »
Well, I let it fill with water and the agitate did not work. I here the motor running but there is no movement. Thats bad!!!  :tickedoff:
I think thats about what it did before I "fixed" it except that before it DID have a broken gear. So, is there something I could have misassembled that would allow the motor to run without moving the agitator? clutch? Would those 2 wires coming from the motor do it if they were mixed up?  :'(

 

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