Leaky Dishwasher

[sparky823]

I have a Kenmore Elite dishwasher model#16582200 Serial#FM3004059. For quite a while it has been VERY loud when running(washing-not draining). Now it is leaking and cannot be used. I know it needs a new motor/pump. I have looked online for the parts, but they ask if you need the large or small thermistor on the module. I am not sure. How can I tell which I have? Also, where the screws are in the door sides, some of those have fallen out and if I try to put them back in they dont tighten. In fact pieces of white plastic have fallen out of there before and you can see it was where the screws went by the threads on the plastic. I dont know if I want to put the money into fixing this or not, then take a chance of something else happening. Can you tell me by the serial# how old it is? I am not sure, maybe 8-9 years old?? If I buy a new one, what brand do you suggest?                                             

[sparky823]

I realized I didnt give the full model #665.16582200 It is a whirlpool made model.

[tgoods]

Your dishwasher was manufactured in 2002.  You could just get the pump motor, W10239404, and save a little money.  If you want the complete sump assembly, you need W10239405, which has the small thermistor port. 

The most dependable dishwasher is probably a regular tub Whirlpool.  If you want another tall tub dishwasher, I don't know what to recommend.
 

[sparky823]

Thanks Tgoods. I just really dont know what to do. For what I paid for this one I would have thought it would have lasted longer. Had a GE before that lasted 18 years but I know nothing is like it used to be.
 
I have looked at the new ones a little bit at Lowes but all the new ones seem smaller(racks) on the inside than the one I have plus some seem flimsy. I am afraid if I put money into this then something else will happen soon like a board go out OR if I buy new I will end up hating what I get and wish I had just fixed this one. I kinda felt like that about the GE when I first got this one. This dishwasher has never had the power(pressure) the old GE had. This one never flips over anything but the GE flipped cups and bowls(plastic) all the time.
 
Thanks again for the help.

[sparky823]

I think I am going to just have this one fixed since I am used to it and like the racks ok.
 
I was wondering, the Kitchenaids use the same pump/motor but they have a 4 blade chopper where mine uses the 2 blade. Would the 4 blade chopper fit my machine, and if so what would be the benefit of that be? I guess the new pump/motor comes with the new chopper already inside, not a buy extra piece--right?

[bigbuck]

all pumps/motor assy. come with 4 blade chopper now, you said the screws are not going in to console now, do to broken, i would also get price on new console panel before you repair...

[bigbuck]

4 blade is keep balance better, look @ the shaft--- still plastic, broken glass, hard food, or fruit seeds still break em.

[sparky823]

I had thought of that about the console, but if I change that out I would be better off to get a new one.(machine)
 
If you had to buy one what is the best brand now, or is there one better or worse? I have noticed that a lot of them now have the filter instead of the grinder in the bottom. Is this due to problems from the grinder or just to make a quieter machine?
 
I have also read where some of them only use one arm at a time to wash, so I wonder if that works better or not? Might give more pressure in each arm since all the water is going to one arm at a time??
 
Thanks.

[bigbuck]

better brands i would have to go with whirlpool products, seem to be better made, but all have their problems.if console not to expensive, i would go with repair. prices on dishwasher can vary due to functions & looks.i would stay away of boush, askco, lg, & samsung. due to service & parts hard to get.

[rego]

Saw something similiar the other day.  Where the screw attached all the post's had been broken.  there was still room for the screw so went to hardware store with original screw in hand and got new (stainless) screw's 1/4" longer.  Buttoned up just fine.  Worth a look.

[sparky823]

Thanks Rego. I will check that out! Not sure why they broke unless just from opening/closing the door so much over the years.Plus, just plastic...

[rego]

yeah, lot's of temp. changes and plastic do not make good bed fellow's.  Hope it works for ya.

[sparky823]

I have looked at some of the new machines and they seem so flimsy--even the racks are so small and rather flimsy compared to mine. That is why I thought I might be better off just repairing, but I have to ask--Out of all that I saw at Lowe's the racks of the Electrolux/Frigidaire seems better layed out, the top rack for sure. I have heard that they are not any good, lots of service problems. Is that right or just about equal with others?

[bigbuck]

its about equal with others  they do not  make anything the way they used too...

[sparky823]

Just ordered the pump/motor W10239405
Will be here Friday. Thanks for all your help!


WHIRLPOOL W10239405 Circulation Pump and Motor Assembly, AP4434617