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Offline tkolarik

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Re: Goodman heat pump very fast cycling
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2011, 10:55:06 PM »
Actually, I had the tech who installed the heat pump come out first and he found the leak at a solder joint/braze point at one of the bends in the coil.  The company who installed the air handled actually checked it too and found the same thing and they did the warranty install.  After a week, the system stopped cooling so I called them back.  He suggested a full leak test after he found the freon to be low, but while he was there he checked the connection that they soldered when they installed the unit with his leak tester.  He noticed a leak at the plastic cap over the schrader valve.  I think he then tried to remove the valve so he could replace it but would not come out (I'm not 100% sure on that), but he eventually put a metal cap on it with some type of sealant.  The unit then worked great until now.

As far as Goodman being up on their warranties, it has not happened with me...  My air handler was installed in 2005 but had a November 2003 manufacturing serial number.  Even with a copy of the "actual" credit card charge and bill/invoice from the dealer, they refused to warrant the repair because they said there was no way a November 2003 unit could have been installed a year and 3 months after it was manufactured!  I had to deal directly with Consumer Affairs and the Warranty Department at the Goodman facility in Houston. 

But my question now is...Should I pay the $1080 quoted to replace the compressor under warranty or try to find the cash to replace the entire system maybe starting at $3500?  After I pay the replacement costs, essentially the entire system will be out of warranty!

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Re: Goodman heat pump very fast cycling
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2011, 11:00:57 PM »
Compressor?
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Re: Goodman heat pump very fast cycling
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2011, 05:58:08 AM »
$1080 is a good price for a compressor changeout.
A system replacement would be to your benefit for a 13 seer or higher.
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Re: Goodman heat pump very fast cycling
« Reply #13 on: April 05, 2011, 04:21:27 PM »
Hey, the technician came by today to replace the compressor under the warranty and after 6 hours, he came to me to get paid and explain...

The compressor was bad and they replaced it but also it appears that something else is bad, maybe the reversing valve.  It would cost another $1000 to replace it under warranty!

SHOULD THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE DETERMINE THAT BEFORE REPLACING THE COMPRESSOR!

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Re: Goodman heat pump very fast cycling
« Reply #14 on: April 05, 2011, 05:06:57 PM »
 A little hard with a bad compressor.

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Re: Goodman heat pump very fast cycling
« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2011, 06:48:57 PM »
6 hours is about 3 hours too long to change out a compressor.
Is the valve stuck in heat or cool mode?
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Re: Goodman heat pump very fast cycling
« Reply #16 on: August 01, 2011, 07:55:51 AM »
You have to make sure that the cycle changes from cooling to heating and vice versa as selected. if cycles in order it's most probably the sensor.

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Re: Goodman heat pump very fast cycling
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2011, 01:45:41 PM »
Most likely it was the reversing valve.  I refused to pay the company for the warranty compressor work and then later I went to them and negotiated a settlement with them even though the tech was horrible and the company was just as bad. 

I installed a new Trane system through a different dealer, with life-time parts and labor.  All I have to do is pay $150 once a year for the two PM service calls.  This system will keep the house cool even on 98-degree days while with the Goodman the temp in the house would soar at 95-drees outside.  And both systems are 13-seer.

Thanks all for the help... But you will never hear from me again.  I love my Trane!!

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Re: Goodman heat pump very fast cycling
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2011, 01:55:52 PM »
Glad you got it taken care of.  O0

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Re: Goodman heat pump very fast cycling
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2011, 05:55:11 PM »
Nothing stops a Trane except Trane itself. :D
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