Oven liner replacement

[sbrooks45]

I cannot figure out who is making the oven, and I would love to see a service manual before tearing into replace the liner in the upper oven.  Can anybody assist, or has anyone changed a liner recently in the newer model Kenmore Elites?

Model 790.4813

[JWWebster]

Alrighty then:
Kenmore product codes
 Prefix      Manufacturer      Type
103  Roper  Cooktop
106  Whirlpool  Refrigerator, Air Conditioner
110  Whirlpool  Washer, Dryer, Dishwasher
119  Royal Chief (Frigidaire), Roper(1)  Cooktop, Range
126  Absocold  Refrigerator
143  Monarch/Simpson 
144  Trane 
154  Whirlpool  Cooktop, Range
155  Preway (Whirlpool)  Range
174  Caloric 
175  In-Sink-Erator  Disposal
186  Haier  Freezer
198  Whirlpool  Freezer
233  Broan  Vent Hood
253  Gibson (Frigidaire)  Air Conditioner, Refrigerator
278  Roper (1)  Oven, Microwave
292  Lennox  Air Conditioner
335  Amana  Range
336  Electrolux 
342  York  Air Conditioner
362  GE  Range
363  GE  Refrigerator, Dishwasher
401  Samsung  Microwave
416  Carrier  Air Conditioner
417  Kelvinator (Frigidaire) 
464  GE 
473  Hover 
484  Fedders, Whirlpool  Air Conditioner
562  Toshiba 
564  Sanyo  Microwave
565  Sanyo  Microwave
566  Sanyo  Microwave
568  Panasonic 
575  Sharp 
580  Goldstar (LG Electronics) 
586  Panasonic 
587  DM (Frigidaire)  Dishwasher
596  Amana  Refrigerator
662  Kelvinator (Frigidaire) 
628  Kelvinator (Frigidaire) 
629  Jenn Air 
647  Roper 
651  Speed Queen 
664  Whirlpool  Cooktop, Oven
665  Whirlpool  Dishwasher, Oven
666  Kitchen Aid  Range
683  Philco  washer
721  Goldstar (LG Electronics)  Microwave
747  Litton  Microwave
757  Ranney/Marvel, Imperial  Freezer, Range
789  Defience  Refrigerator
790  Frigidaire 
791  Tappan (Frigidaire) 
795  LG Electronics  Refrigerator
835  Roper 
840  Fridrich  Air Conditioner
850  Preway (Whirlpool)  Oven
867  Keeprite  Air Conditioner
879  Rheem/Ruud 
911  Roper (1) 
917  Roper (Whirlpool)  Range
925  Maycor (Maytag) 
934  Hitachi 
960  Caloric 
970  Frigidaire  Range, Refrigerator;                                                                              APPLIANCEJUNK.COM
C106  Inglis  Refrigerator, Range
C110  Inglis  Washer, Dryer, Dishwasher
C362  Camco  Range
C363  Camco  Dishwasher, Range
C364  Admiral (Inglis)  Refrigerator
C365  Woods  Refrigerator, Freezer
C880  Admiral (Inglis) Range, Refrigerator
C933  Kelvinator (Before 1970) 
C938  Keeprite  Air Conditioner
C968  Moffat (Camco)  Range
C970  Kelvinator  Range, Refrigerator
C978  Camco  washer, dryer, refrigerator

[sbrooks45]

Yep, it is a Fridgidaire, but I've scoured for a service manual to no avail.  The Fridgidaire site does not provide service man.

[JWWebster]

Have you checked the Fearless Leader's Appliance Digest link to your left? I imagine he has a manual that could give ya an idea.

[sbrooks45]

Yep, checked those archives already.  The only Fridgidaire oven manual in there doesn't cover liner replacement, and is for a different model anyway.

My plan is to pull unit out of cabinet, then just start pulling the unit apart in as logical a way as possible, but it sure would save some time if I had an idea of what had to come out, and what did not!

[JWWebster]

Why would you be wanting to change the liner?

[sbrooks45]

Because when Mom and Dad weren't home, my daughter (not understanding that there is a heating element under there) put foil in the bottom of the oven to catch cheese from a pizza she was making, which of course welded an entire sheet of foil to the liner.   

Thought about the draino mixture cleaning method, but the shame of it is this oven is brand new (I just installed it 3 weeks ago).  And, ultimately, we won't be happy unless it is restored to new condition again.

[JWWebster]

Try some easy off non fume formula. Go by directions. pretty good stuff

[sbrooks45]

That was the first thing I did.  Didn't even dent it. Nada.

[jumptrout51]

This Sears parts site view might help you.
http://www.searspartsdirect.com/partsdirect/part-model/Kenmore-elite-Parts/Wall-oven-Parts/Model-79048139801/0583/0125300?searchedModel=790.4813&blt=

[whjeffs]

Wow you are in for one big nasty pain in the butt job! I do this stuff for a living and I avoid replacing oven liners if at all possible. Not something I'd recommend for a novice. But if you must.........with the unit out of the wall and sitting on the floor, Start by taking the doors off if you haven't already. Then take off the back panels. Disconnect the oven sensor, broil & convection element wiring then remove them from inside the oven. Remove the convection fan blade (the nut is a reverse thread!) The hidden bake element most likely won't have to be removed. Look for any screws on the back of the oven holding the liner in and remove them. Remove the oven vent tube from inside the oven. This should turn about a quarter turn counter clockwise then pull out. Remove the light housing(s). They should have a disconnect plug when you pull the housing out but the plug may be all the way at the back of the oven & you will have to pull the wire through. Now you've done all of the "easy" stuff. Depending on how this one is made, you may or may not have to remove the front frame. Look at the front of the oven opening to see if the liner overlaps the frame or sits behind it. If behind it, start disconnecting every screw you can find on the sides and front holding the frame in. Last, sometimes there are one or a few screws inside the oven cavity near the front holding it in, if so remove them. Now once that is done or if you did not have to do that step, CAREFULLY start wiggling out the liner. The part thats difficult here is getting the liner out without disturbing the insulation. It may help to lay the oven on its back at this point so when you get the liner out the top of the insulation does not fall down. If you are still doing ok at this point, congratulations! Now all you have to do is reverse those steps! Depending on where the oven light is mounted you may have to fish the wires back through so at this point it might help to put a string or another wire through the hole to pull the wires through.
Now if any of these instructions sounds scary to you, don't ruin your $2000+ oven, call a professional. It might cost you a few hundred dollars but might save you a lot of trouble and aggravation!

[sbrooks45]

whjeffs,

Thanks!  Finally someone sent a great reply to my post, and it came just in time.  I should have mentioned that although I have zero experience with appliances, I'm a VERY mechanical guy, quite capable with tools, so I wasn't at all scared off by your instructions. 

Thanks for taking the time to write all that, the one key tip that saved me a lot of headache I'm sure, was to lay the oven on it's back when I pulled out the liner.  I would not have thought to do that, and that was an awesome tip!  Everything else was pretty easy, and I actually completed the job in 2 hours last night.

I plan on putting together a tutorial with pics if anyone is interested.

[AJ]

I plan on putting together a tutorial with pics if anyone is interested.

That would be great if you could put together a tutorial and post it here.