Author Topic: soap dispenser will not open, soap in dispenser, dished dirtier than before  (Read 11195 times)

Offline BrntToast

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is your machine drained through the floor?
friggy dishwashers cant be drained below floor level, they will start to siphon the water out half way through the wash cycle when they come to the purges

this would explain the dirty dishes,soap in the dispensor and a water heating error, cause the machine cant heat water or clean dishes if there is no water in the tub
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Offline Rick52768

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It is not drained through the floor, but the hose does dip down a couple of inches before it feeds to the air gap and then back to the disposal.

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Updated information and still need help.  I have found that water flow may be an issue at my house or area.  I get 62 PSI when I use one hose spigot and the PSI drops to 42 when I use both of my hose spigots.  The same results for my neighbor.  The water company guy said that is a flow problem, not a pressure issue.  The reason I bring this up as many times flow and pressure was mentioned by all of the repair techs for my dishwasher when it was under warranty.  The replaced hoses to make sure it was big enough and the "right" type, their words.  Any good way to test a possible flow issue at the dishwasher?  It is a Frigidaire which also complains that the water is not hot enough, HO flashes on the door a few times per each wash.  Water is hot enough according to the manual and a non-touch temp gauge, which I use the at the sink near the dishwasher.  I also run the the hot water at the sink before I start the dishwasher and do not run any other devices that use hot water during the time the dishwasher runs.  Thanks 

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from a friggy service letter
Not all of the detergent is being washed out of the dispenser, or the consumer is using detergent
tabs and they are getting stuck in the dispenser.
The roller assemblies for the lower rack have been redesigned, lowering the rack by , allowing
clearance for the detergent dispenser door to open farther. The service kit number is
p/n 154573401. It comes with four wheel assemblies and installation instructions.
to test proper fill
Select a cycle and time the fill. The fill time will be 87 seconds for each fill. Once the wash
motor has started, open the door and check the water level. With the dishwasher level; the
water should come to where the heater mounting clips attach to the tub.

if you have an optional rack that clips on to the bottom rack on the left hand side near the detergent cup... remove it and try machine without this raised left side rack

also... determine if the door is sticking on the top or bottom rack, you can figure this out by runing a short wash with no bottom rack
if you hear the cup door snap open when you open the d/w door with no bottom rack then you know it is catching on the top rack
« Last Edit: October 11, 2010, 02:54:22 PM by BrntToast »
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Offline Rick52768

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Sorry about the delay, too many projects like venting my microwave through a sidewall of my house.

The fill time is 105 seconds and the water is just at the bottom of the bracket for the heater element as you said.  Could the longer fill time be because low water flow or pressure issues?  The dispenser door comes half way open and it stopped only by the top rack.  Half way open (horizontal) sounds okay to me, but is it?

Anybody know the GPM required for a normal dishwasher?  I read 6.74 GPM at my hose spigot and a drop to 5.31 GPM with both hose spigots on.  I heard that 10 oz in ten seconds is a normal dishwasher repair tech trick?  Sound right as that sounds low to me?  I guess this test is unhooking the fill hose, running a cycle and seeing if it can fill something 10 oz in size in ten seconds.  Thanks

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I believe what the repair tech told me was something that he does not normally check.  I just did the filling 10 oz in 10 seconds and it was more like 16oz in 1 second or 10 cups in ten seconds.

As BrntToast said the water during the fill test (bottom of dishwasher tub) that the water level should be at where the heater element brackets meet the tub.  Whirlpooltech said the water should be just below the heater element if not touch the element.  Which is correct?  My water level tub switch (not sure of its correct name) is close to the heater element in level when I hear it click, when I manually move it up slowly.  Is it a timer or this switch that is used to give the proper water in the tub?  Thanks

 

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