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VDSC36746SS 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« on: November 02, 2009, 07:32:14 PM »
This range has a single burner that causes the re-ignition sparks to run continuously.

The other burners spark and burn properly. This problem burner burns fine as well.

I narrowed down the possibilities, I moved the ignite wire to another burner and the problem followed.

I've read the other posts and did some other testing/ cleaning/ and proofing

Though before I pull the stove out to test the wire on the problem burner I thought it would be smart to have the spark Module on hand (it's a tough job to move this range)

I think I'll need this spark module:

http://www.allvikingparts.com/PA020048_Reignition_Spark_Module_Viking_p/pa020048.htm

Any suggestion are appreciated, the boss wants to run all burners on turkey day.                   THANKS!

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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #1 on: November 02, 2009, 09:26:17 PM »
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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2009, 05:39:22 AM »
If the ceramic spark insulator on the burner in question has a hairline crack, or the flame is too low to complete the re-ignition circuit, then it will spark till the cows come home.
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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2009, 09:50:09 AM »
Thanks for the quick responses, and the Ignition Info

I do have good flame and a clean ignitor at the bad burner, the spark from the bad burner does jump from the top of the ignitor to the burner. so I don't think the ceramic is cracked

Now that I've reread my original post ther are 2 more details

1. this was the ONLY burner she used after the range was put into service, sure others got used but this one was used 90% more than the others

2. when I connected the bad burner's wire to another ignitor (just moved the wire) the system continously sparked while all burners were lit , but I had one wire not connected to any ignitor - because it was too short to reach another burner- seems like a poor test on my part

before I pull the range to fully test the wiring can the module I referenced be confirmed as the right one for this unit, is there a cheaper source? ($60)

Is it possible the electronics wore out, right?, I'm not expecting the wiring to be bad, the burner has worked without sparking on rare occaions (after the problem started)

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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2009, 01:39:57 PM »
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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2009, 02:07:02 PM »
Could just mean a new spark module. I would go with whatever part they recommend for this range. Your test was ineffective since one electrode was left ungrounded. Naturally the burners will continue to click under these circumstances. The module is seeking path to ground right thru the flame on the burner. If you are sure the ceramic is not cracked, then a new module is in your future.
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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2009, 09:49:08 PM »
I concur, I would guess a new module

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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2009, 02:22:20 PM »
Spoke with allvikingparts rep

The history with this model, and my serial number:

This is a common problem, the ignitors are drawing too much, overloading the reignite module, and in my case likely wearing out my single burner's spark path.

He the rep suggested replacing the entire setup to provide best results.

1 module (PA020047)
4 burner bases with new embedded ignitors (PB050081)
1 wrench for easy bases removal/install (BT-SBW)

totals just south of $200 with shipping


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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2009, 02:44:16 PM »
I would  jump on it. Then you'll be starting out fresh with hopefully no worries for awhile. High end products come with high end repair bills in most cases :)

Had you paid someone to do the work, you can easily add $300 to the bill.
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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 06:23:35 PM »
Job Complete

Thanks to all who offered their opinion and insight.

This stove's iginitor module was burnt on one side (see photo), the extra parts all viking parts sugested should keep this from happening again, and the tool they had to remove the burner bases made this work very quick, about 90 minutes start to finish. Now the boss has no excuses on turkey day and I can reserve my seat on the couch.


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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 09:00:38 PM »
Hi Dug
How did burner tool work BT-SBW. I have used a hose pliers. It leaves scratches on the brass... let me know should I sent the $20?
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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2009, 09:01:30 AM »
Tool was worth it, no scratches very efficient. you could make one based on the picture. they added some rubber coating in a few places, like liquid electrical tape

The all viking parts rep said some individuals use a strap wrench which probably would work pretty well too.


A tip: the burner base was was stuck down, I used a plastic ID card (medical or library card) to slip between the pieces, worked easy and no scratches.


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Re: 5 year old Viking Range Ignitor problem
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2009, 11:33:33 PM »
thanks for the info Dug... I will have to get one..
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