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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #40 on: September 08, 2009, 04:13:24 PM »



The flame also plays a very important role in this process. Because the flame is conductive, it allows the voltage to pass through its body like a bridge to the burner. This bridge allows the built up spark voltage to bleed off of the igniter tip and move to ground more easily. The resultant ionized flame bridge has now become the path of least resistance for the spark to take across the gap between the spark electrode and the burner body.
By bleeding off the buildup of voltage we stop the spark from occurring. The spark is, in effect, still there, you just canʼt see it.



Possible Causes of Continuous Sparking:



Defective spark wires.



Continuous high heat can cause spark wires to degrade. Use volt/ohm meter to determine continuity of spark wires. Look for obvious cuts/abrasions or pinch points. A defective wire can allow spark voltage to transfer through insulation to ground prior to reaching spark electrode. Under normal circumstances all igniters fire together and if the burner in question has found an easier ground path the spark will go there. It will not, however, in most cases have found a continuous ground path such as what the flame would provide under normal circumstances. This will cause the spark module to re-ignite.



Cracked Ceramic Spark Electrode


Itʼs important to determine whether the spark electrode is faulty. Physical impacts and high heat can cause the ceramic post to fracture or crack. If this occurs the spark can shoot through the ceramic insulation and will normally go to ground on the burner head rather than through the flame
/burner.



Faulty Burner Grounding


From the spark electrode / burner to earth ground it is important that you have a strong connection. This can be interrupted in many different ways.


1. Soiled spark electrode
2. Soiled burner
3. Soiled burner head
4. Corrosion between the burner head and burner tube.
Normally this will appear as a brownish stain and can be easily cleaned with a small wire brush.




Any of these conditions can interrupt current flow. It is recommended frequent cleaning with a stiff plastic or soft wire bristle brush using pure alcohol or a window cleaning solution that contains alcohol. It is commonly thought that simple igniter cleaning is enough, it is not. You have to clean all three conductive components to ensure good continuity. A small amount of grease or oil can act as an insulator and prevent the spark from flowing properly.


It is common to find one or a series of burners that will only spark occasionally. As with the previously described scenarios check all possible ground faults. This is the number one cause of erratic sparking, not spark modules as is more commonly thought. If you have made certain thatyou have a strong flame current / flame placement / solid ground, replace spark module.

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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #41 on: September 08, 2009, 04:16:56 PM »
chilicasa,

I had to split your last reply into two different ones. For some reason it was to much for one post and was just showing a blank post.

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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2009, 04:24:21 PM »
chilicasa,

I had to split your last reply into two different ones. For some reason it was to much for one post and was just showing a blank post.


Thanks
Just thought it was interesting and wanted to share it with the guys who just helped me.
Still looking for the damn part #
Viking dealer is 10 hours away and closed for the day

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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2009, 07:49:20 PM »
part # PA020041

click on picture  $ 106




click on picture  $ 54
(also fits models not listed)


Whirlpool & Maytag also use this module

I can't find their part number, but if you take it to a Whirlpool / Maytag Parts dealer, they should have one.


« Last Edit: September 09, 2009, 08:34:53 PM by RegUS_PatOff »
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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #44 on: September 11, 2009, 01:57:53 PM »
part # PA020041

Thanks for the update!
I thought I would go back again to see if there were any more comments and there you were with more info.
I spoke with the guys at allvikingparts.com
They gave me a different number for my range but you put me in the right direction.
I have ordered PA020047 module and PA020028 ingnitors for spares.
Did you know that they have only been online for just two days?
They were very impressed that you recommended them.
Enjoy the beer!Terry O0

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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2009, 02:05:48 PM »
Glad to hear it all worked out.

Quote
I thought I would go back again to see if there were any more comments and there you were with more info.

By default you should get a email when someone post a reply to a topic you started.

Also if you look at the top and bottom of this topic you will notice a tab that say's "NOTIFY". If you click on that you will be notified of any new replies.

The notify tab works with any topic not just ones you started. There is also a notify tab for each board (sear, maytag, whirlpool, etc.) too. :)

You can also go to your profile page and change Notifications and Email
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Thanks for posting the part number.  O0
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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2009, 02:16:12 PM »
didn't know allvikingparts.com was only online for a few days ..

Viking had an update that said some models (yours wasn't listed) that would now use the PA020047 and that the PA02001 was no longer available .. ? ? ?

OK .. the PA020047 is cheaper ...

thanks :pint1:
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