Author Topic: vgic3054bss Viking Range - only 3 months old  (Read 18610 times)

Offline chilicasa@hotmai

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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2009, 02:12:31 PM »
Hi chilicasa,

If you would like you can email me the video and I will upload it to our server or our youtube channel and then post it here for everyone else to view.

Thank you for posting your questions.
Thanks John for your understanding.
I just sent you an email as well.
Seems Hotmail wont allow a file that large so I tried again to put it up on youtube and since I now have an account... it worked
I titled it Viking Gas Range with problems.
Special note to repairman... I wasnt trying to piss you off and make you feel jaded. Not sure why I got the comments I did. And I do not want to discuss it any further. I thank you for your assistance up to that point. I hope you have a GREAT day and maybe you should back off on the double serving of Cherios in the morning. GREAT website! and thanks to you all.

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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2009, 02:15:45 PM »
Here is chilicasa video of his Viking range he is having problems with.

What do you guys think after seeing the video?



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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2009, 02:20:39 PM »


Only one Burner should Spark for each Burner Control.
Separate inputs on Spark Module = separate Spark Output for specified Burner.

« Last Edit: September 08, 2009, 02:23:39 PM by RegUS_PatOff »
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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #33 on: September 08, 2009, 03:03:30 PM »
Cherios indeed... har-de-har-har

After all this, including the video which was enjoyable enough, do you get a glimmer that the module is bad now?  John's link to AP  Wagner parts should allow you to purchase one in Canada and get your range going properly again. It's just a shame it took this long to get the point across...
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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #34 on: September 08, 2009, 03:07:01 PM »
Dude that is a weak spark module no doubt. From the way I take it the spark module on this stove works like points on a car. As each knob is turned the grounding makes that ignitor toss sparks from the module. With the module being weak you don't get enough spark.Its almost as if you had a bad coil on a lawn mower except it is a spark module instead of a coil. Works on the same princible though.
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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #35 on: September 08, 2009, 03:26:45 PM »
JW, if you had Viking manuals all along, how come you did not offer one  about 3 pages ago when it would have helped out?  This gent needs it worse than I do :)
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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2009, 03:30:40 PM »
do you get a glimmer that the module is bad now?

I'm not familiar with Viking model numbers. After searching for the part at a number of different places using the model number and coming up empty I started to wonder if it was a good model number.

Then I googled the model number and found that AJ Madison sells that same model range.

http://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/VGIC3054BSS.html

Would there be a part number on the old Viking part?
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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #37 on: September 08, 2009, 03:38:18 PM »
Thank you all for your help.
I will order a module

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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #38 on: September 08, 2009, 03:48:35 PM »
Did you find a part number?

If so please post it here. :)
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Re: Viking Range - only 3 months old
« Reply #39 on: September 08, 2009, 04:09:21 PM »
Did you find a part number?

If so please post it here. :)

I am having the same problem as you.
I have found that model VGIC3054BSS has been discontinued and replaced by VGIC3064BSS
What I just found was interesting so I thought I would post it for you all. Maybe right... maybe wrong... just another technicians thoughts.
If you look closely at a finger of burner flame you will see that it is clearly made up of three separate elements:
1. Inner fuel rich cone
2. Ionized blue outer cone with current carrying capabilities
3. Outer air rich mantle.
When gas combined with air, burned energy is released in the form of heat and light. When the gas / air mixture is controlled, the outer blue cone will actually carry electrical current similar to a wire.
If we place a metal probe into this “Ionized Plume” and apply a voltage between it and the burner, current will flow. An important characteristic of a burner/flame/electrode assembly is its ability to mainly pass current in one direction. It behaves as a one way valve or rectifier.
Flame rectification systems make use of this directional characteristic when detecting a good flame to distinguish it from leakage currents that can arise due to moisture contamination, soiled igniter tip, poorly grounded burner spreader ring / burner head, cracked igniter insulation or poor house ground.
An AC voltage is applied to the electrode from the spark module and the resultant current flow which is greater in one direction than the other, is electronically detected. This current is very small, about one microamp.



The accurate placing of the electrode in the flame is important. This igniter tip needs to be perfectly located in the ionized outer blue cone to effectively send and then detect current flow. To break it down further, the spark module acts as a simple capacitor. It saves voltage like a sponge until it can hold no more. It will save and release this voltage approximately 3 times per second. When the voltage is released it follows the spark wire until reaches the spark electrode tip. The built up voltage wants to leave the tip and move to the point of least resistance. In a healthy situation this will be the burner. From the burner the voltage flow will pass through the burner head, burner tube, chassis and to ground. An interruption of this current path will cause the spark system to misbehave.




 

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