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Offline Mike23

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Spin issue
« on: January 08, 2009, 12:01:18 PM »
My washer is about 3 years old. It works great exept for the final spin. It just seems like it does not get up to speed like it used to. It leaves clothes soaked. Even if I spin it 2 or 3 times i have the same results. I have removed the drain hose and it seems to pump water out just fine. I lifted the washer and the coupling seems OK also. There are  small amount of oil marks on the inside of the cabinate. It is not heavy, but they are there. I did also notice a small amount of rubber shavings under the washer also. Since there in so belt i don't know what this may be. I would love to fix this thing myself. Any help would be great. Thanks  

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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2009, 01:34:23 PM »
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There are  small amount of oil marks on the inside of the cabinate. It is not heavy, but they are there.

This happens when the transmission leaks oil into the clutch.
When the clutch spins it gets oil on the inside of the cabinet.
The clutch will also slip once it gets oil in it.

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I did also notice a small amount of rubber shavings under the washer also.

This is from wear and tear on the motor coupler.
If the washer ever had the coupler replaced before it maybe even shavings from the last coupler.

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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2009, 01:49:57 PM »
Is there a way for me to fix the leaky trans? Can i just disassemble it and use silicon or is it an internal clutch? If it is can it be fixed rather cheaply?

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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2009, 02:07:29 PM »
Another quick question. How does oil from the trans get onto the clutch, when the clutch is above the trans?

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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2009, 09:59:22 PM »
Mike I would love to know that one too.
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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2009, 10:10:28 PM »
I have never worked on a washer before. But, I am a certified auto mechanic and an engineering student. I should be able to fix this thing. If the main seal from the tub was leaking could that cause my problem? But, then the brake would be wet also, right? How hard is it to replace the main seal and the clutch? If i were to do that would i also replace the gearbox? (Do to displaced oil). Is this repair even cost effective? The washer is only 3 years old and a large capacity. Crap now i really don't know what to do. Please help.

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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #6 on: January 08, 2009, 10:23:03 PM »
I have took the whole thing down to the doughnut. Time consuming but not hard at all.
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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2009, 10:34:21 PM »
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Another quick question. How does oil from the trans get onto the clutch, when the clutch is above the trans?

Magic.  :2funny:

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If the main seal from the tub was leaking could that cause my problem? But, then the brake would be wet also, right?

Correct, and your floor.

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How hard is it to replace the main seal and the clutch?

Main seal?

It's easy to replace the trany and clutch. No special tools needed.

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(Do to displaced oil)

The new trany comes with oil in it.

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Is this repair even cost effective?

Enter the part numbers in the top left corner search box for prices.

Clutch: Part # 285785

Gearcase/Trany Part # 3360629

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I have took the whole thing down to the doughnut.

JW, what the hell are you talking about now??

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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2009, 11:21:27 PM »
The tub seal. We call it a doughnut.
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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2009, 05:08:11 AM »
Another quick question. How does oil from the trans get onto the clutch, when the clutch is above the trans?

That's not oil you see, but a mxture of the heavy grease that is  slopped on the drive tube before it is inserted into the tub support at the factory. They use  dark grease in the area between the top of the agitator seal down to the base of the lower tub bearing. This grease may remind you of transmission oil, but it is not, nor was the transmission affected at all.

Just water and grease from a bad basket drive mechanism. Plan on  new clutch, new drive tube and new coupling to make the machine back to new.
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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2009, 07:15:16 AM »
Well, I replaced the clutch and the coupling. One of the old clutch pads had broken and turned sideways in the housing. Now it spins great. I have one problem, when the spin starts it is loud. Like a Scrapeing and squeecking noise. It sounds like the clutch is just slipping. the directions say "flange installed downward". If i did this then the brake cam driver would not go into the correct position. When the washer gets mobing the noise stops. The clutch came with the blue spring installed and 2 green springs. The directions said that i need to use the blue spring so i did not change it. Do i need to change it? It would be counter productive to put any grease near the clutch pads correct? Please help.

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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2009, 07:29:31 AM »
Never any grease!

Perhaps the clutch did not engage properlywith the brake release cam when you re-assembled it. Installing the clutch plate correctly is important as is the lining. The blue spring is the correct one for your machine...be sure the lining was seated properly in the clutch plate so as to release the brake when the springs contact the tab.



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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2009, 07:34:02 AM »
The lining came assembled already. Should i take it apart and disassemble the lining? I will check for proper engagement of the brake lever. Thanks :)

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Re: Spin issue
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2009, 09:18:46 AM »
Thank you to all that helped me with this project :) It is done. The noise was from the lining not seated properly. I took it apart reseated the lining and it works and sounds great. Now my wife is happy, she can do more laundry. Thanks again.

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