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Offline tagarman

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Appliances & GFCI outlets
« on: June 02, 2014, 08:53:43 PM »
Hey everyone,  I just ran into a Maytag washer model no: A512 that had a bad 20-amp GFCI outlet.  I replaced that outlet in June of 2013 so it only held up for 1 year.  I thought I read somewhere or someone told me that some appliances will not work if connected to a GFCI outlet.  Has anyone else ever heard of this and if so what appliances won't work and why don't they work.   I would like to know so that I could inform my customers in the future if and when I run into this again.    Thanks, Tom

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Re: Appliances & GFCI outlets
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2014, 01:59:49 AM »
As dab's link points out, a big no-no.

AKA nuisance tripping. It is sometimes difficult to explain to customers.

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Re: Appliances & GFCI outlets
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2014, 09:24:44 AM »
Houses around here are usually built with one outlet in the garage.And its a GFI. Guess where the freezer gets plugged in?

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Re: Appliances & GFCI outlets
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2014, 10:36:15 AM »
I see these in laundry room remodels from time to time. Get a call for washer tripping breaker. Walk into a new remodel with old washer plugged into brand new GFCI outlet. Spend 30 minutes explaining to them that I'm right and their electrician is wrong.
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Re: Appliances & GFCI outlets
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2014, 05:21:58 PM »
First I plug in my Kill a watt. Tell them to watch the amp draw as I cycle the unit. When they see that it pulls close the the 15amps and trips the circut it sinks in. I then tell them to get an extension cord and plug it in to a non gfci outlet and see how many issues they have. I say if you haven't had one issue in over 5 cycles. Replace the GFCI outlet with a standard one. 99% of the time I don't hear back

Offline tagarman

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Re: Appliances & GFCI outlets
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2014, 08:15:15 PM »
Thanks everyone,  I'm going back out tomorrow to replace the new GFI outlet with a regular standard receptacle.  I also printed out a copy of what DAB sent me to show the customer that GFCI outlets will not work on appliances that have a motor.  Thanks again for all your help.  Tom

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Re: Appliances & GFCI outlets
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2014, 05:08:52 AM »
I was just out on a call yesterday for a "no power to washer" walked in saw it was on a GFCI. reset it turn on the washer and the customer's jaw dropped. Then I explained why GFCI outlets are a no/no for appliances.

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Re: Appliances & GFCI outlets
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2014, 11:49:29 PM »
Another really good reason to not put an appliance on a GFI is that many of them (washers, dishwashers, garbage disposals, fridges, etc.) inherently mix water and electrical technology (wet defrost heater in a freezer, sloshed water in a washer, etc.).

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Re: Appliances & GFCI outlets
« Reply #9 on: June 07, 2014, 11:05:46 PM »
First I plug in my Kill a watt. Tell them to watch the amp draw as I cycle the unit. When they see that it pulls close the the 15amps and trips the circut it sinks in. I then tell them to get an extension cord and plug it in to a non gfci outlet and see how many issues they have. I say if you haven't had one issue in over 5 cycles. Replace the GFCI outlet with a standard one. 99% of the time I don't hear back

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