Author Topic: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair  (Read 4353 times)

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2013, 08:13:24 PM »
I would replace the inner fuse. It's a thermal fuse, an external fuse would not trip if the coil overheats.

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2013, 01:06:25 AM »
Good Idea JW>    Got company this weekend,  letting the job go to sometime this week.   I was now even thinking some kind of little "circuit breaker"  if it goes out,  all I would have to do is stop back and reset it.   

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #17 on: April 01, 2013, 08:37:34 AM »
  As tgoods has suggested, this is a thermal fuse and operates on the overheating of the coil, not the amperage draw. The thermal fuse is rated at 2 amps. The shifter requires 135vdc to the coil to engage the solenoid and then switches to 35vdc to hold the solenoid in. At 135vdc, the coil is drawing less than 1.5 amps. The problem occurs when the lid is opened at certain times and the 135vdc is applied for too long a period of time. The coil overheats and opens the fuse. An external standard fuse that I suggested before or circuit breaker is not going to provide protection.

goodsusedappliance: what was the coil resistance on yours? There are two different versions. One uses copper wire and has a coil resistance of around 98 ohms and the other uses aluminum wire with resistance of around 65 ohms. That may be why there are two different fuses used.

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #18 on: April 07, 2013, 10:30:53 PM »
I'll have to wait to get another used one.   Guy decided to wait and plunk in an old maytag he had that just needed belts.    I'll get one eventually.  I can't wait to rip one apart now.
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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #19 on: July 10, 2013, 07:13:37 AM »
Has anyone replaced the RS6006 bearing which is available from most industrial bearing suppliers. My shaft mode assembly is performing properly in the engage and disengagement process, but the tub seal failed resulting the tub sleeve bearing wearing and gauling, and the RS6006 bearing inside the mode shifter is also not spinning smoothly. I disassembled the assembly and I am ready to press out the bearing, but before I do, just wanted to see if anyone has successfully done this.

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #20 on: July 10, 2013, 05:36:00 PM »
just wanted to ask,is it really necessary to remove tube to get mode shifter out?ive laid this machine on its side and removed bottom panel,access seems to be all there!by the way i have a good motor for this machine if somebody needs one

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #21 on: July 10, 2013, 06:00:34 PM »

  Well, you have to at least remove the inner tub as it is attached to the mode shifter. It's a lot easier to service with the whole outer tub out and inverted.

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2013, 07:03:02 PM »
I take them out and flip them over.Easier for me.

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2014, 08:45:36 AM »
 :)   This actually works !      I didn't know what to expect when I opened up the coil.
You have to be careful not to break any wires.  Before I started I took my ohm meter
and  there was an open.  Looks like the fuse blew.  I peeled back the wires and
it was obvious where the fuse is.  There is only one part besides the wires.
I just twisted the wires together AT THE END OF THE FUSE  and left the fuse in.  Black taped everything back up
and got my ohm meter out again.  93 ohms or so  ;).  Cool ..... 

To do it right you should put in an inline fuse ON THE WIRES RUNNING back to the motor which I will do.
Put everything back together and 4 blinks. Bummer.  But I DID THE LEAVE POWER OFF TRICK
AND LIFT THE LID 6 TIMES IN 12 SECONDS AND WOW.  1 BLINK EVERY SECOND.    WASHER FIXED. IT WORKS.  THANKS !!!!
WIFE HAPPY AGAIN.

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2014, 09:44:05 AM »

  Providing an external fuse is not going to provide the protection that the internal fuse does. The internal fuse is a thermal device and will open if the coil gets too hot. The coil requires 135vdc to operate the solenoid but then drops to 35vdc to hold the solenoid. If the washer lid is opened/closed during a certain time in the cycle, the inverter board applies the 135vdc for too long a period of time and the coil overheats. This has been fixed by a software change to the inverter board. To really fix the problem, you need to replace the motor/inverter or refrain from opening/closing the lid after you have loaded and started the wash cycle.

Eric

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2014, 02:50:43 PM »
Thank you for the comments.  My wife says she did open the lid frequently to check on the water level ( don't know why).

She says she will stop doing this.   It seems you know this problem in great detail !    If you stopped the wash cycle and then
opened the lid, close the lid and then pulled the knob to start the cycle again do you think this would be better ? 

Sounds like she should just let the machine do it's job.

THank you very much for your comments and knowledge !

Regards,

John

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #26 on: February 10, 2014, 09:27:22 AM »
How about a self resetting TCO? Then you won't have to worry about changing the motor to update the firmware...

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #27 on: February 25, 2014, 07:59:44 AM »
Hello,

Seems I have the same symptoms as described here with mode shifter open and engaged (clunking during agitation).

My question- any issue with limping through with washer in this condition (i.e., not repairing)?  Don't want to invest time/money into this machine.  Can it be used reliably or eventually tear itself apart and motor fail next unexpectedly?

Thanks for such a great resource and information.

Eric

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #28 on: February 25, 2014, 10:41:31 AM »

  Not a good idea. Hard on the motor and mode shifter. It's not designed to agitate the whole basket full of water.

Eric

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Re: GE Hydro Wave Washer -Mode Shifter Ghetto Repair
« Reply #29 on: May 14, 2014, 09:59:40 PM »
I've attached a bit of a service memo telling you which motors cause the failure.

 

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