I agree, online line training is not a substitute for the classroom, where you can tear a machine down, talk to other techs, mingle. We used to get a lot of training classes here, but the last one offered was the VMW over a year ago. I used to go to all of the classes. Now, I just do my own research. And thank goodness AJ set up this site, we can all help each other. I do miss training, however, and guys .......... I don't think these companies are ever gonna spend money anymore for a trainer to go from city to city to train techs. It's all about bottom line with them. CASH.