Relay replacement conflict: GE fridge SSH25KFRFWW

[andersenappliance]

Got a call on this fridge.  It had a burnt relay.  The relay that burnt is this one:

http://www.appliancepartspros.com/Appliance-Parts/whirlpool-compressor-starting-device-item-number-ap4079373.aspx



The existing relay is exact, in all respects of shape, etc.  (there is a small "ge" logo, but you can see one on the picture, too)

The model calls for this relay: http://www.appliancepartspros.com/Appliance-Parts/ge-5sp-overload-ptc-item-number-ap3884299.aspx



Would you guys go with replacing the exact part that came off? or the one that the model number calls for.  The exact one that came off is cheaper & includes the capacitor.  The one the model number calls for does not include the capacitor.  And in that case, would you swap out the capacitor as well?

I guess I'm inclined to get the model part, plus a new capacitor,  thinking that some other tech just replaced the relay with what was on his truck at one time.

What do you think?

[AJ]

Either one would probably be fine, but being the one that was on there already failed I would go with the replacement the model number calls for.

Maybe it's new and improved, lol...

[andersenappliance]

Yeah, I looked for that.  There's no mention of a substitution.  I figure if there is a problem, I can point to the model number for the one I replace, but if I match the old one, I'd have to produce it to prove that I swapped whats there now.

[dab147315]

That relay on your first post is a maytag relay and the wrong relay for a G.E refrigerator.The white relay is the right one but you will have to order a capacitor as you only get the relay.

[andersenappliance]

Thanks Dab,

I know its a different relay, but it is what was there.  I identified it by the shape.  I'm assuming it could not have the exact(!) same shape if it was from a different manufacturer.  Also, the capacitor on it (in another photo) has a GE logo.

Anyway, I ordered the one that the model number called for.  I figure this one might have been put there by some other tech who had it on his truck.

[dab147315]

Ya your right but if you order new relay it will come without capacitor.

[andersenappliance]

Maybe I should start a new topic.  I hope this gets some attention.

Same Fridge:  GE  SSH25KFRFWW

Need Manual / Tech sheet.

Came on fridge plugged in.  Relay on control board clicking.  Compressor not running, but pretty warm.  Relay (discussed above) had hole burned in bottom.  Replaced relay.

Nothing.  No compressor or fan, relay on board still clicking.  Turned off Cold Control, one of these: AP3796849. 

Plugged back in.  Relay still clicking, nothing else.

I don't have a wiring diagram, but the leads to the relay are orange and black.  The black lead has wandering voltage, orange is dead.  I'd guess that orange should have something, but w/out diagram...

Control board looks OK visually.  Tested compressor with test cord & it starts right up.

Any ideas (or manual/tech sheet)?

 

[dab147315]

You could have bad mother board.Replace board and see want you get.Here is a way that may help you to find out if you are getting power to compressor.

[andersenappliance]

Hi Dab,

I didn't check the control board w/o manual/tech sheet, but will go back.  I've very little experience with the boards.  It looks like I have the manual you cut that out of, at least I have the same page in the one I'm using.  With the cold controls I indicated, you can't get into the diagnostics that my manual indicates.

The orange line to the compressor, which I'm guessing comes from J7/9, is completely dead.  The wiring diagram from my manual shows a tab1 black, but the board schematic does not.

If no juice at j7/9 it looks like a dead control board to me, to the extent I can go w/out the exact manual/tech sheet.

[dab147315]

You can also go under manuals on appliance junk and download manual 31-9072 that is very good.

[dab147315]

That is encoder model so you can not put it in a diagnostic mode which is not that important anyway.

[andersenappliance]

31-9072 is what I've been looking at.  The fact that one has diagnostics, and the one I have doesn't leads me to believe that there might be a substantive difference.

Thanks for your input on this.  I cringe at the thought of replacing a board, and not fixing the problem.  These folks are on the fence for repairing this thing, and the relay is necessary.  Adding a board AP4436216 to it jumps the price up.  I can sell it if it fixes it, but if it doesn't...

[dab147315]

That is the most popular board G.E uses and its a must for truck stock.

[andersenappliance]

I can tell that much of our truck stock in the future will be control boards.  Seems like sometimes the only way to test them is to plug in a new one & check what happens. 

[niobrara]

Replace the board , then you will have power to the compressor. I carry about 3 of those boards. And I use them a lot. GE has great sealed systems but the boards do fail.