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Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« on: August 30, 2007, 04:31:58 PM »
HI,

You would think buying the top of the line would make it last longer but it isn't always true. Our last Kenmore lasted almost 20 years.

We have a Kenmore Elite Washing Machine about 8 years old. Every option on it.

Today it stopped spinning. It fills, washes or agitates, drains the water, then (sounds like spinning but doesn't), fills, rinses and agitates, drains the water and again, Sounds like it's spinning, but it does not, so the motor is running. The lid switch is OK, Timer will complete each cycle to the end,  but the actual spinning of the basket in not happening.

Can I fix it with normal tools and guts to try it?

Model 110.23034101


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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #1 on: August 30, 2007, 04:43:31 PM »
I just watched the video of the coupler replacement, but that was a washer that would not agitate or spin.

My Kenmore will agitate and drain, but will not spin.

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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #2 on: August 30, 2007, 05:46:57 PM »
Hi,

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You would think buying the top of the line would make it last longer but it isn't always true. Our last Kenmore lasted almost 20 years.

Yeah, I hear ya there. Seems like back when I started doing this over 20 years ago I did not work on much of anything that was under 10 years old.

Now day's it's a different story and warranty work keeps me busy and if it's not warranty it most often is something under 10 years old that I am working on, lol..

Take a look for the model/serial number tag on the washer. Maybe on the lid or under it.
Going to need the model number to see what Kenmore model you got.


 

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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #3 on: August 30, 2007, 08:21:40 PM »
Here we go,

The M is 110.23034101

The S is CM4704668

Type is 111

I hope you can ID the problem. I read some motors reverse for some applications, which makes two things work and one thing dead. But the motor on this washer is running trying to do it job. When the spin cycle is on, it sounds just like it's spinning the clothes, but it's way to smooth and no vibrations.

Thanks for your help.

Rod

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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2007, 09:11:20 PM »
Ok, I looked up your model and it is a direct drive washer made by whirlpool for sears.

If it does agitate it is not a bad motor coupler.
If the motor runs during spin the lid switch is ok, like you said. :)

This leaves us with only a few things. Being the motor coupler is good the motor should be turning the tranny in the spin cycle. If the tranny is not spinning the clutch then you have a bad tranny.

If the clutch is spinning it could be slipping, but it may smell then and still spin a little.

The other thing it could be is the drive block that connects the tub to the spin tube.

I would take a guess that maybe your trouble and it is easy to check.

Remove the agitator, there is a bolt in the top center that holds it on.
The top of the agitator will have a dispensor or cap that you will have to remove before you see the bolt.

Once you have the agitator removed put the washer in spin with the lid up so you can see what happens. You will have to push the lid switch in with a pen or something so the washer motor runs.

Looks close at the shaft, do you see anything turning?


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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2007, 05:00:29 PM »
I've got a friend who has opened up a few washing machine before said he will come by next week to pull the Agitater and follow your instructions.

I'll post what we find

Thanks

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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2007, 05:19:54 PM »
I wached the Video about the coupler change and was amazed at the front, top and side came off quickly in one piece.

Does My Kenmore Elite open up like the Video???

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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2007, 05:24:40 PM »
I wached the Video about the coupler change and was amazed at the front, top and side came off quickly in one piece.

Does My Kenmore Elite open up like the Video???

Yep, sure does. :)

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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2007, 05:33:02 PM »
ID'd the problem with your help, the coupler is OK.

The transmission is bad. I have not opened the transmission yet but is it the problem.

Can the transmission be repaired or am I limited to total replacement?




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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2007, 05:45:11 PM »


Can the transmission be repaired or am I limited to total replacement?


I don't think you can get parts for them anymore. I use to repair them 15-20 years ago.
Now day's they just get replaced and most often I only to a tranny job if it is still under warranty.

The tranny is not cheap, but if your going to do the job yourself then it may not be all that bad.

Here is the tranny for your washer.



So what did you find wrong with the tranny?
Was it leaking oil all over the place?


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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2007, 07:55:00 AM »
The oil was leaking on the transmission, it covered the bottom of the tranny, but had not dripped on the floor.
If a small amount of oil leaks out will that stop the operation or does something else usually break or wear out in there first.

I'm sorry I just feel that these things should last longer than what it did.

I saw the video on Why the Washer died. Its very spookey that a company would create a product that actually limited it lifespan by incorporating materials that would begin to corrode as soon as they came in contact with each other.
The owner said his unit came with a 5 years warrenty and the unit died on the sixth year.
Sounds like it was created with a certain termination date already on the books.

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Re: Kenmore Elite Top of the Line quit spinning
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2007, 05:24:55 PM »
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If a small amount of oil leaks out will that stop the operation or does something else usually break or wear out in there first.

If the oil is not getting into the clutch that sits on top the tranny it could run for a long time.

If oil is getting up into the clutch it will start to slip and not spin out very good.

They should last longer and the whirlpool direct drives are some of the best out there. You just got a bad one, sorry.


 

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